MLM Mind Game: Pretending Everything is Black and White

Time after time I've seen MLM proponents make a silly argument that everything has to be black and white - either good or evil. For example, they'll stuff like, "Not everyone fails at MLM." and "MLM isn't for everyone." These statements, and similar ones are largely meaningless and only expose the person saying them as either ignorant of logic or openly trying to scam others. Let's take them in order:

"Not everyone fails at MLM."

The first place to start is at the use of the word "fail." That word alone requires a lot of defining in the world of MLM, since no one seems to agree on what it means. Also, in any pyramid scheme, whether it be an MLM or not, there are people who success. This statement does nothing to defend MLM, when it also applies to illegal pyramid schemes.

"MLM isn't for everyone."

I could easily say that "Robbing banks isn't for everyone." or "Picking pockets isn't for everyone." Both statements are true. It doesn't help advances the cause for MLM at all.

Bottom Line: The MLM proponent tries to make a case that if it is okay for some people, it is should be okay for all. This is a huge logical fallacy. Let's me give an extreme example. "Crashing airplanes into skyscrapers is not for everyone." Clearly the act is for terrorists. We can't justify the act simply because it is okay for some people. We have to look at it objectively and say, "Hey there were thousands of innocent people killed! This is not a good thing!" When it comes to MLM, don't let such arguments influence you from looking at it objectively. Remember the business of MLM, is a terrible one indeed.

(Note: The extreme example was given to prove the point about the lack of logic, it does not serve as a comparison. Please refrain from any comments saying that I compared MLM to terrorism. I did not.)

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2 Responses to “MLM Mind Game: Pretending Everything is Black and White”
  1. Kat Says:

    Are you kidding me! You are foolish! Your statement that you did not try at ALL to compare MLM to terrorist acts is false indeed. You did. You tell MLM people not to use extreme examples (as you did) of highly…. highly let me repeat that HIGHLY successful MLM people as a way of telling people they can be successful too. Your example of people doing bad things and expecting good is a testament to your thinking…not reality. Not everyone fails in MLM..no way! You know that too! Also, to state that MLM is bad for everyone because you feel it is or that people say it is only good for a few is also wrong. What you feel is irrelevant but you do NOT give proof that all MLM are bad. Go…educate yourself! Seriously, MLM has helped millions of people and Wall Street, banks and terrorists all have good people and bad people running their business. It is the bad ones who give them a bad name! Just because you see people who wear a white coat and say call me a doctor or a suit and tie and say call me professor is legit as a JOB or they are some how better or more lawful or morally good or even going to make more money in the long run is wrong! All JOB’s including MLM take work and the product must change people lives or NO product will sell long…By the way, even internet marketers like your self have a bad name and people who start businesses fail at the same rate as MLM. Heck even MC D’s have employees who fail every day and are FIRED! None of your info is based on real logic or real life. Did you fail in MLM and are in need of tearing down the industry. 82% of women making over 100K per year do it in direct sells! Now tell me how…guess they are all scammers!

  2. mlmmyth Says:

    Kat said,

    “Are you kidding me! You are foolish! Your statement that you did not try at ALL to compare MLM to terrorist acts is false indeed. You did.”

    No I didn’t compare MLM to terrist acts in any way. I simply used it as an exmple to show how flawed the logic is. I thought it was quite clear that I used an extreme example for illustrative purposes.

    Kat said,

    “You tell MLM people not to use extreme examples (as you did) of highly…. highly let me repeat that HIGHLY successful MLM people as a way of telling people they can be successful too.”

    Yes, I do. It isn’t the norm. It is like the lottery pitching winners as being the norm and telling them to play the lottery because they too can be millionaires. The FTC Endorsement Guides (PDF) say that people compensated for endorsing (which includes MLMers) should disclose the typical case, not the extreme best case. MonaVie, an MLM, tells its distributors about this quite clearly. Here’s one thing they say, but it’s all worth reading:

    “Ex. ‘I made $25,000, in one month with MonaVie, and you can too.’ While this statement may be true…the result is not ‘typical’. Such statements would be in violation of the current guidelines. Whenever discussing earnings, you should refer to the Income Disclosure Statement and provide the link or the actual document.”

    So when I tell MLMers not use the extreme examples, I’m only informing MLMers that they need to stay within the FTC guidelines.

    Kat said,

    “Your example of people doing bad things and expecting good is a testament to your thinking…not reality.”

    I don’t know what example you are referring to. I’ve never suggested that people doing bad thing should expect good.

    Kat said,

    “Not everyone fails in MLM..no way! You know that too!”

    Yeah that was in the article under the headline: “Not everyone fails at MLM.” I’m glad that you read what I wrote. In any pyramid scheme, some people are making money.

    Kat said,

    “Also, to state that MLM is bad for everyone because you feel it is or that people say it is only good for a few is also wrong. What you feel is irrelevant but you do NOT give proof that all MLM are bad. Go…educate yourself!”

    I don’t know where you get this is my “feeling.” I didn’t use any such words that I feel that way. I’ve given much proof on this site that MLM is bad. No, I haven’t proved that “all MLMs are bad”, but that’s getting back to the “MLM Mind Game: Pretending Everything is Black and White.” I’ve looked at dozens and in that sample size, they’ve all been bad. Bad is, of course, a subjective term, but when I use it, I mean that there’s a large amount of fraud involved and that they fail the FTC’s guidelines for being a pyramid scheme. There are probably thousands of MLMs out there, and I’m not saying that I’ve looked at “all” of them. I’m confident that my sample size is indicative of the industry in general. There might be a good MLM out there, but at the same time there might be might be a pink juggling penguin too. It is not practical to examine all MLMs and all penguins, but so far there are no exceptions to the rule.

    Kat said,

    “Seriously, MLM has helped millions of people and Wall Street, banks and terrorists all have good people and bad people running their business. It is the bad ones who give them a bad name!”

    Since 99% of people lose money in MLM if MLM has helped millions of people, by definition it has hurt hundreds of millions of people. Sure, good and bad people are in every business you can think of. There are good and bad people in prison. Such vacuous statements are what this article is about. It doesn’t tell us anything about the nature of MLM and that they all appear to be “bad” (see above for my subjecive definition of “bad”).

    Again, there seem to be limited good ones in MLM, which is why people spread unsubstantiated facts as truth. You do this yourself when you say that 82% of women making over 100K per year do it in direct sales. These statements never come with well-cited sources and are the kind of thing that are repeated in MLM. They are quite often obviously false… as in this case. Maybe good people are in MLM, but many are being brainwashed and defrauding others with their misinformation.

    Kat said,

    ” Just because you see people who wear a white coat and say call me a doctor or a suit and tie and say call me professor is legit as a JOB or they are some how better or more lawful or morally good or even going to make more money in the long run is wrong!”

    It’s funny that you capitilize job. It’s just a word like any other not deserving capitalization. MLMers are brainwashed into calling a career a “JOB” as in Just Over Broke. Doctors heal people and Professors teach people. MLMers recruit people into a scheme where 99% of people lose money. It’s like dragging people into quicksand. They may claim that they are salesmen, but the ones that make the most money make over 99% of their money from their recruiting efforts rather than their sales to people outside the scheme (to paraphrase a FTC’s guideline for an MLM being a pyramid scheme). It’s worth noting that an inanimate shelf at Wal-Mart does a better job selling than MLM.

    Kat said,

    “All JOB’s including MLM take work and the product must change people lives or NO product will sell long…”

    Yes, even a job pick-pocketing people takes work. That doesn’t mean it is right.

    As for the product changing people’s lives, I’ve shown that MonaVie is a scam… especially their $40 bottle of juice that lacks nutrition. It turns out that because the real “product” being sold is the business “opportunity”. In this economy, selling a business “opportunity”, especially when using fraud and disinformation to do it, can last a long time.

    Kat said,

    “By the way, even internet marketers like your self have a bad name and people who start businesses fail at the same rate as MLM.”

    I’m not an Internet marketer. I don’t sell a single product.

    People who start other businesses do not fail at the same rate of MLM. Plus, with MLM It’s Not a Matter of Effort, it’s a Mathematical Certainty. Other businesses aren’t mathematically designed to fail like MLM.

    Kat said,

    “Heck even MC D’s have employees who fail every day and are FIRED!”

    Being an employee is not being starting a business. What does this have to do with MLM?

    Kat said,

    “None of your info is based on real logic or real life.”

    Like your logic about an McDonald’s employee getting fired?

    Kat said,

    “Did you fail in MLM and are in need of tearing down the industry.”

    Nope, but thanks for pulling out Common MLM Myths #1. Oh and your other businesses fail are #3.

    Kat said,

    “82% of women making over 100K per year do it in direct sells! Now tell me how…guess they are all scammers!”

    As I said above, there’s no evidence of this. In fact, I’m quite sure there are more 6 figure pharmacists than MLMers since there are very few 6-figure MLMers. However, I will give you that you said “direct sales” which includes non-MLM sales through something like an Ebay store. If you are playing games with the definition of MLM like confusing MLM vs. Network Marketing vs. Direct Selling, I can’t help you. It’s funny that you mentioned things getting a bad name, when MLM has had to change its name multiple times… distancing itself from the definition of multi-level marketing.

 

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